Our Staff

Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions focuses on providing a small number of top quality teen adventure and custom fly fishing trips each year, allowing us to be highly selective with our small staff of only highly qualified and experienced individuals dedicated to providing the best possible experiences for our trip participants.


WIll Lillard

A New Jersey native, Will spent his summers backpacking at camp in Colorado and fishing at his grandparents in Western North Carolina. His time spent in the outdoors instilled a growing passion for environmental conservation. After playing lacrosse and earning a BA in Political Science at Kean University he followed his passion for conservation into teaching outdoor education. He has led outdoor education trips for Sanborn Camps in CO, Wilderness Adventures in HI, WY, and MT, Naturalist at Large in CA, and the Outdoor Academy in NC. After graduating from a fly fishing guide school at Cutthroat Angler in Siverthorne, CO he went to work for Crested Butte Angler on the Gunnison River. It was on the Gunnison River that he decided to make his passion his career and returned to school at NYU for his graduate degree in Environmental Conservation Education. During graduate school, he worked in the fishing department of the Orvis 5th Avenue store where he also taught fly fishing 101 and fly tying 101. During his free time he volunteered for Trout Unlimited, teaching and developing lesson plans for their youth education program, “Trout in the Classroom”. His passion for fly fishing, conservation, and teaching inspired him to develop Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions as his Master’s thesis. His goal is encouraging appreciation for nature through participation in backpacking and fly fishing, while inspiring future generations of sporting conservationists. When not fishing, he enjoys skiing and shooting sporting clays. He is a certified Wilderness First Responder, Maine Guide, and a Level 1 Sporting Clays Instructor.

Rocky Mountain Regional Director/Head Guide

Charlie Parr

Charlie is an avid outdoorsman.  His parents taught him to fly fish when he was just 9 years old. Ever since then he has  spent his summers exploring the mountains and rivers of southwest Colorado.  Upon graduating from high school in Oklahoma City, Charlie threw himself into a life dedicated to exploring the outdoors.  While pursuing a degree in History and Political Science at Colorado College, Charlie led outdoor education trips for Sanborn Camps, held a leadership position in the ski club, engaged in conservation work, and was involved in planning and executing many backcountry excursions with friends and various organizations on campus.  Over the past 16 years, Charlie has lived, worked, and played in Colorado, Montana, and New Zealand gaining a great deal of experience in various outdoor pursuits including backpacking, fly fishing, whitewater rafting, backcountry skiing, sea kayaking, and mountaineering.  Through his experiences, Charlie has ascertained that “for young adults, active participation in the outdoors is invaluable for fostering the growth of important life skills such as leadership, responsibility, self awareness, and independence. It also teaches the importance of environmental and resource conservation and just simply knowing how to have fun outside anytime, anywhere.”  Charlie currently lives in Denver, CO where he spends his free time fishing, hiking, skiing, and teaching others how to safely explore the outdoors.

Office Director/Trip Coordinator

Kim Lawson

Kim graduated with a degree in Early Childhood and Elementary Education. Before returning to school for her Master's degree in Special Education she discovered the joy of teaching outdoor education.  While leading wilderness trips for adolescents with Naturalist at Large in CA, Kim loved showing girls how much fun backpacking and river trips could be. Kim used to spend the school year teaching a Kindergarten class for autistic children. Now she manages our office full time. Kim does all the behind the scenes work that keeps our trips running smoothly. If you have any questions during the summer Kim is happy to help. When she is not managing our adventures she can be found on her own adventures with Will and their children River and Baily and dog Jack. 

Trip Director

Pat Sheehy

Another NJ native, Pat Sheehy first learned about LFFE when Will gave a presentation to his Boy Scout troop. Already an experienced angler Pat jumped at the opportunity to refine his skill on our 2012 Blue Ridge Adventure. Three trips later he started working as a co-leader while attending Montana State. He recently earned a degree in Early Childhood Education and we are lucky to have him direct our Montana and Yellowstone Expeditions. Pat's participants love his sense of humor, patience on and off the river, and his knack for putting kids on big fish. When he is not on the water you can find him hunting ducks and turkey. Pat is a certified Wilderness First Responder and licensed Montana Guide. 

Trip Director/Guide

Charlie Williams

Born and raised in Clarksburg, WV Charlie learned to fish at an early age from his grandfather and father. He was introduced to outdoor education working as a camp counselor during summers off from college. After graduating from William and Mary he spent 9 years working as a middle school history and English teacher and as director at that same summer camp. He now has a graduate degree in school counseling and works as a counselor in a high school in Richmond, VA. We first met Charlie while co-leading a fly fishing trip with our friends at Virginia Outside. With his love for fly fishing and his experience/skill working with teens, we knew right away that he would be a perfect fit for LFFE. Luckily for us, Charlie now spends his summers guiding our Adventures in Colorado and Yellowstone. Participants love his sense of humor and parents can't get enough of his top-notch trip updates. In the fall he returns to VA where he tries to find time to chase wild trout in his favorite places, small streams in the mountains of western Virginia and West Virginia.

Trip Director/Guide

Ed Dujardin

Ed moved west for the mountains and snow. His love of competitive big mountain skiing and hard work allowed him to travel the world doing what he loved. A season-ending injury and long recovery turned Ed to fly fishing. What he didn't realize was that ultimately he’d spend more time on the rivers learning to fly fish than anything else. If you are a skier his recovery edit is well worth a watch. 

Whether through skiing, biking, hiking, or fishing, Ed has worked with youth of all ages to share his appreciation for the outdoors through organizations like Western Colorado University, Irwin Guides, and the Fly Fishing Show.  After 10 years of living and fishing out of Crested Butte, Ed now lives in Boulder.  He spends the school year teaching Social Studies and most of his free time skiing, fishing, and trying to escape the crowds of the Front Range.  We are excited to welcome Ed to LFFE where his extensive outdoor knowledge and experience is sure to be a great asset to all of his trips.

Summer Office Manager

Margot Drennen

Margot teaches preschool during the year, but when it comes to the summer, she is here to help with all your questions. Margot manages our office, making sure someone is available to answer your calls from 8AM to 5PM, 7 days a week. After hours she is available in case of emergency. When not working she enjoys spending time with her husband, two children, two dogs, and the occasional foster dog from the local shelter.

Medical Advisor/Fly Fishing Instructor

Dr. Jessica Parr

Jessica grew up fishing on the Connecticut River before attending Colorado College, where she fell in love with the mountains.   Fly fishing has remained a central part of her life throughout her medical training.  She has observed that many of the skills developed through fly fishing can contribute to academic and professional success, which is one of the reasons why she loves teaching adolescents how to fish and safely enjoy the outdoors.  Jessica is also a fly fishing instructor for Casting for Recovery, an organization that plans therapeutic retreats where women affected by breast cancer can enjoy nature and learn how to fly fish.  Jessica is a board-certified MD specializing in internal medicine, and is currently completing a subspecialty fellowship in cardiology.


Harry Desmond

Harry’s love of fly fishing and outdoor adventures has led his travels to Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, and Oregon, where he has worked, played, and explored. In all, Harry has 15 years of experience, including 8 years working in Yellowstone National Park.

Harry is a Sweetwater Fly Fishing Guide School graduate. He is also CPR, first aid, and water safety certified. He is proficient in many techniques, including nymph fishing, dry fly fishing, and streamer fishing, and he will select the right style for any given day’s conditions to maximize your catch. He is also the owner and head guide and Berkshire Rivers Fly Fishing. When he is not helping out with our adventures you can find him guiding on the waters of Western Massachusetts, and CT.

Colorado Expeditions Director

Jack Seiver

Jack was actually the first person to ever sign up for a Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions trip. I have lost count of the number of LFFE trips he has been a part of, but they have certainly fostered a love for outdoor education. After receiving an Environmental Science degree from Santa Clara University, Jack mastered the art of leading wilderness trips for teens. He follows the footsteps of Will, and further trains his outdoor education skills while working for Naturalists at Large during the Fall and Spring. Most of his LFFE experience has been in Colorado, but he also led two Yellowstone Adventures in 2018. Jack is currently based out of Crested Butte and directing the Colorado Expeditions.

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Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions was started in 2010 as a graduate thesis for my Master's Degree in Environmental Conservation Education at NYU. The operating premise was simple - by coupling amazing wilderness fly fishing camps for teens with environmental education and service learning we can help inspire future generations of fly fishing conservationists. We have been growing our unique list of trips and experiences ever since.

When it comes to choosing a summer program for your teen the options are endless. For the teen who loves to fish, be outside, and has a strong sense of adventure we have made the choice easy. We are the leader in teen fly fishing adventures and are dedicated to providing the best backcountry fly fishing experience with opportunities for teens to engage in leadership training, community service, and backcountry camping.


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Will Lillard, Founder/Director/Guide

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Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions
2540 King Road
Pisgah Forest, NC 28768

(828) 577-8204