Our Staff

Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions focuses on providing a small number of top quality teen adventure and custom fly fishing trips each year, allowing us to be highly selective with our small staff of only highly qualified and experienced individuals dedicated to providing the best possible experiences for our trip participants.


WIll Lillard

A New Jersey native, Will spent his summers backpacking at camp in Colorado and fishing at his grandparents in Western North Carolina. His time spent in the outdoors instilled a growing passion for environmental conservation. After playing lacrosse and earning a BA in Political Science at Kean University he followed his passion for conservation into teaching outdoor education. He has led outdoor education trips for Sanborn Camps in CO, Wilderness Adventures in HI, WY, and MT, Naturalist at Large in CA, and the Outdoor Academy in NC. After graduating from a fly fishing guide school at Cutthroat Angler in Siverthorne, CO he went to work for Crested Butte Angler on the Gunnison River. It was on the Gunnison River that he decided to make his passion his career and returned to school at NYU for his graduate degree in Environmental Conservation Education. During graduate school, he worked in the fishing department of the Orvis 5th Avenue store where he also taught fly fishing 101 and fly tying 101. During his free time he volunteered for Trout Unlimited, teaching and developing lesson plans for their youth education program, “Trout in the Classroom”. His passion for fly fishing, conservation, and teaching inspired him to develop Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions as his Master’s thesis. His goal is encouraging appreciation for nature through participation in backpacking and fly fishing, while inspiring future generations of sporting conservationists. When not fishing, he enjoys skiing and shooting sporting clays. He is a certified Wilderness First Responder, Maine Guide, and a Level 1 Sporting Clays Instructor.

Rocky Mountain Regional Director/Head Guide

Charlie Parr

Charlie is an avid outdoorsman.  His parents taught him to fly fish when he was just 9 years old. Ever since then he has  spent his summers exploring the mountains and rivers of southwest Colorado.  Upon graduating from high school in Oklahoma City, Charlie threw himself into a life dedicated to exploring the outdoors.  While pursuing a degree in History and Political Science at Colorado College, Charlie led outdoor education trips for Sanborn Camps, held a leadership position in the ski club, engaged in conservation work, and was involved in planning and executing many backcountry excursions with friends and various organizations on campus.  Over the past 10 years, Charlie has lived, worked, and played in Colorado, Montana, and New Zealand gaining a great deal of experience in various outdoor pursuits including backpacking, fly fishing, whitewater rafting, backcountry skiing, sea kayaking, and mountaineering.  Through his experiences, Charlie has ascertained that “for young adults, active participation in the outdoors is invaluable for fostering the growth of important life skills such as leadership, responsibility, self awareness, and independence. It also teaches the importance of environmental and resource conservation and just simply knowing how to have fun outside anytime, anywhere.”  Charlie currently lives in Crested Butte, CO where he spends his free time fishing, hiking, skiing, and teaching others how to safely explore the outdoors.

Trip Leader/Trip Coordinator

Kim Lawson

Kim graduated with a degree in Early Childhood and Elementary Education. Before returning to school for her Master's degree in Special Education she discovered the joy of teaching outdoor education.  While leading wilderness trips for adolescents with Naturalist at Large in CA, Kim loved showing girls how much fun backpacking and river trips could be. Kim used to spend the school year teaching a Kindergarten class for autistic children. Now she manages our office full time. Kim does all the behind the scenes work that keeps our trips running smoothly. If you have any questions during the summer Kim is happy to help. When she is not managing our adventures she can be found on her own adventures with Will and their children River and Baily and dog Jack. 

Summer Office Manager

Margot Drennen

Margot teaches preschool during the year, but when it comes to the summer, she is here to help with all your questions. Margot manages our office, making sure someone is available to answer your calls from 8AM to 5PM, 7 days a week. After hours she is available in case of emergency. When not working she enjoys spending time with her husband, two children, two dogs, and the occasional foster dog from the local shelter.

Medical Advisor/Fly Fishing Instructor

Jessica Rice

If you happen to be on the West Elk Adventure you will get the chance to learn from Jessica. Jessica grew up at the mouth of the Connecticut River and spent most of her time out on the water enjoying the outdoors.  Lured West to attend Colorado College and fish some of the best trout streams in the world, she immediately felt at home exploring the Rocky Mountains.  Now a medical student at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, Jessica feels that skills learned while fly fishing play an important role in future academic and professional success, especially in adolescents.  “Many people see fly fishing as a fun and relaxing way to relieve stress and connect with nature, but I think it’s more than that.  It helps improve your attention span, patience, and ability to concentrate, but you’re having so much fun that it just happens effortlessly.”   Jessica also loves sharing her passions with others.  In addition to teaching math and science to middle school students, she volunteers as a fly fishing instructor with Casting for Recovery, an organization that plans therapeutic retreats where women affected by breast cancer can enjoy nature and learn how to fly fish.  When Jessica is not buried in books or running around the hospital, you can find her on a quiet river with her fly rod.


Harry Desmond

Harry’s love of fly fishing and outdoor adventures has led his travels to Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, and Oregon, where he has worked, played, and explored. In all, Harry has 15 years of experience, including 8 years working in Yellowstone National Park.

Harry is a Sweetwater Fly Fishing Guide School graduate. He is also CPR, first aid, and water safety certified. He is proficient in many techniques, including nymph fishing, dry fly fishing, and streamer fishing, and he will select the right style for any given day’s conditions to maximize your catch. He is also the owner and head guide and Berkshire Rivers Fly Fishing. When he is not helping out with our adventures you can find him guiding on the waters of Western Massachusetts, and CT.

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Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions was started in 2010 as a graduate thesis for my Master's Degree in Environmental Conservation Education at NYU. The operating premise was simple - by coupling amazing wilderness fly fishing camps for teens with environmental education and service learning we can help inspire future generations of fly fishing conservationists. We have been growing our unique list of trips and experiences ever since.

When it comes to choosing a summer program for your teen the options are endless. For the teen who loves to fish, be outside, and has a strong sense of adventure we have made the choice easy. We are the leader in teen fly fishing adventures and are dedicated to providing the best backcountry fly fishing experience with opportunities for teens to engage in leadership training, community service, and backcountry camping.


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Will Lillard, Founder/Director/Guide

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Lillard Fly Fishing Expeditions
2540 King Road
Pisgah Forest, NC 28768

(828) 577-8204